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Don't Let the BBC Lies Lie PDF Print E-mail
Written by Kieran McGowan   
Thursday, 26 May 2011 00:30

bbc_scotland_sportTo say that I was outraged at the half-time analysis during the BBC coverage of the Scottish Cup Final on Saturday would be an understatement. Having spoken to numerous Celtic fans since, I am confident that this sentiment is shared by all those who have seen what can only be described as scandalous "sports" television coverage. It was truly shocking to see such a blatant attempt to besmirch the name of our club and the Celtic support, an attempt which in my opinion looked rather pre-contrived. It is frightening that such ill-informed, slanderous statements could be made live on national television based on uncorroborated second hand here-say.

It is particularly disturbing that this happened when the sustained racist and sectarian singing from the Rangers support at the League Cup Final just two months ago was clearly audible on BBC coverage yet passed without comment. This was despite these "songs" being widely accepted as racist and sectarian as well as attracting sanction from UEFA on multiple occasions.

According to the Sun today (I was directed to it online, it is not my paper of choice!) the BBC has received approx. 800 complaints, good going I'd say. But part of me thinks that the BBC will attempt to bury their heads in the sand. Given that their potential strategy may be to attempt to let this blow over I think it important that we as a support do not allow this to happen by taking action against the BBC.

 

I have written and submitted the attached letter of complaint to the BBC. I hope that by posting it on CU it can act as a template for other supporters who wish to have their voices heard simply by putting their names to it and submitting to the BBC complaints dept. This can be done online at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/ or by phone 03700 100 222 or at the address below (I have submitted via all three and would recommend the same):

 

BBC Complaints
PO Box 1922
Darlington
DL3 0UR

I am also in the process of writing a similar letter to OFCOM on the basis that I believe that the BBC will fail to take an acceptable level of remedial action. I will submit this in due course and hopefully share on CU.

There is a danger that, if these views go unchecked, they legitimise the mis-representation of the Celtic support as bigoted or sectarian which I firmly believe not to be the case. Furthermore it trivialises the anti-Irish and anti-Catholic bigotry in this country and could portray the hate campaign against Neil Lennon and other high profile supporters/players/Catholics as a by-product of a 50-50 conflict between a "Catholic Celtic" and "Protestant Rangers".

I am taking the following courses of action and urge all Celtic fans to do the same:

1. Submit letters of complaint directly to the BBC

2. Submit letters of complaint directly to OFCOM

3. Make contact with your local MP and ask how such inflammatory mis-representation and slander is being tackled as part of the 8-point plan and other initiatives proposed by the Scottish Parliament to tackle sectarianism. On a brief aside, I will also be asking how they plan to tackle the problem of the season of hate-marching which is about to commence with gusto.

4. I am currently exploring what legal action could potentially be taken in light of the defamatory slanderous comments made by Rob McLean and Pat Nevin and would urge any 'legal eagles' among the support to shed light or provide advice on this matter if they can.

During moments of self-reflection I have questioned whether my outrage to the comments made and the course of action which I am now taking, and proposing others take, is reactionary or extreme. However, my conclusion is that the statements made on Saturday are but one in a long series of attacks against Celtic Football Club and its supporters in what is, at best, ignorance within the wider media and at worst a sustained media agenda to denigrate Celtic, its supporters and the ethnic groups to which they belong.

I ask that you do not let these lies lie and challenge such attacks as far as you possibly can within your gift.

Below is the letter Kieran submitted to the BBC:

Dear Sir/Madam

 

I attended the Scottish Cup Final between Glasgow Celtic and Motherwell on the 21st of May 2011 at Hampden Park.

I had recorded the BBC coverage of the match to watch upon my return home. When viewing the halftime analysis I was both angered and saddened by the comments made by two members of the broadcasting team covering the match and now wish to make a formal complaint.

I also wish to inform you that I will be making a complaint to OFCOM on the basis that I believe these statements to be in breach of ‘OFCOM’s standards code’ as outlined in section 319 of the Communication Act 2003 under Programme and Fairness Standards for Television and Radio which I quote:

“that there is no use of techniques which exploit the possibility of conveying a message to viewers or listeners, or of otherwise influencing their minds, without their being aware, or fully aware, of what has occurred”

I also believe the comments to have breached section 320 of the Communications Act 2003 under Special Impartiality Requirements on the basis that this subject is a matter of political controversy and relates to current public policy on sectarianism, which is not for the BBC to attempt to define.

I now quote the statement from Rob McLean:

"I'd love to go through a football show without mentioning the word "sectarian" but I feel we are going to have to at half-time because those outside that can hear the songs being sung, tell me that the Celtic supporters have been singing some sectarian songs during the first half despite Celtic going very public with their intimation that they wanted it completely stamped out. Lots of publicity for Rangers, punishment for Rangers from UEFA as well, it seems as if it is happening outside from the Celtic supporters".

Following the statement Pat Nevin then replied with condemnation of the Celtic fans for what was alleged singing of these songs.

Having attended the match and hearing no sectarian singing from the Celtic support I was shocked by these claims, upon watching the BBC coverage I again found no evidence of sectarian singing from the Celtic support.

There are a number of points in relation to the comments made during the half time analysis that I wish to bring to your attention as part of this complaint:

  1. Rob McLean in his statement is referring to songs heard by other people and not by himself. Did the producers of the show allow Rob McLean to pass comment on second hand, uncorroborated information?

 

  • Is such wild and ill-informed comment on live television now BBC editorial policy? If so can you please confirm which songs the BBC classes as sectarian as there were no songs sung by Celtic fans during the Scottish Cup Final that I would class as sectarian?
  • The statement from Rob McLean would place BBC Scotland in direct breach of the OFCOM standards mentioned and Communications Act 2003
  • In the recent BBC documentary Bombs, Bigotry and Football the following definition for Sectarian was offered by Reveel Alderson:

“Hating someone just for their religion, Catholic or Protestant”

There were no songs sung by the Celtic support at the cup final that could, in any way, be interpreted as sectarian by this definition. If the BBC has another means by categorising any song sung during this match as sectarian I would be grateful if this information was made public. During this documentary there was no attempt to examine or categorise specific Celtic songs as sectarian. It is therefore disappointing that two sports broadcast journalists attempted to do this on live television, only a matter of days after this documentary was aired.

  • Rob McLean refers to “intimation” from Celtic football club inferring that the club wished sectarian singing to be stamped out. This is factually incorrect; Celtic Football Club has made no such plea regarding sectarian singing. They have asked for offensive chanting to be stopped. The factors that determine a song or chant offensive are a matter of opinion and in this case relate to complex matters of Irish history and politics. Such a subject is far beyond the remit of any sports journalist to comment on during a short broadcast on live television.
  • As an independent broadcaster funded by TV licence payers I am surprised that the BBC’s editorial policy allows for such wild comment from sports journalists during live coverage of a football match. However given that representatives of the BBC are willing to make such comments on the basis of second hand information, I would be grateful if you could enlighten me as to why no such comment was made during the live BBC Scotland coverage of the 2011 League Cup final when sectarian singing, which has been deemed illegal and for which UEFA have imposed penalties upon Rangers football club, was clearly audible during the match. I quote a link to this singing below:
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QUjBRym90
  • I can only make the assumption that the song which was referred to during the halftime comments was the Irish historical song The Boys of the Old Brigade which refers to a man’s fellow soldiers who lost their lives during the Irish uprising and subsequent War of Independence in the early part of the twentieth century. To my knowledge this is completely unrelated to religion and therefore not sectarian. I would be grateful if BBC Scotland can confirm if Rob McLean and/or Pat Nevin are qualified to examine the lyrics of a song such as this and define it as sectarian? It is also worthy of note at this point that Her Majesty the Queen on her recent trip to the Republic of Ireland laid a wreath in memory of the same men referred to in this song. I would be grateful if the BBC would provide any information that they believe allows the classification of this song as sectarian.
  • The condemnation of the Celtic fans based on what was alleged, second hand information is of a defamatory nature and slanderous against Celtic supporters and British citizens who are of Irish descent living in Scotland. As a one of many Celtic fans belonging to this particular group in attendance at the Cup Final, I consider the comments made by Rob McLean and Pat Nevin, which were implied to be factual, to give this particular group a negative image. This was further compounded by the mention of the UEFA punishments levied against Rangers for sectarian singing and inferring that Celtic supporters were guilty of the same offence. It is worthy of note at this point that fans of Celtic football club have never faced criticism let alone punishment from UEFA for behaviour or singing and in fact have been praised on numerous occasions for their conduct when travelling to away European games.

Over the past 10 months there have been significant tensions relating to bigotry and sectarianism in Scottish society and Scottish football. Hate campaigns have been conducted against high profile Roman Catholics as well as players and individuals associated with Glasgow Celtic Football Club. These campaigns have culminated in attempts on more than one person’s life. The irresponsible nature of this incident is staggering and to allow such comments to be aired on live television is inflammatory at best and downright dangerous at worst.

The BBC is supposed to stand for an independent, balanced, unbiased and critical search for truth. This outburst was the epitome of simple-minded sensationalism and agenda driven propaganda. I have had the misfortune of having to listen to this kind of ignorant and misplaced opinion from vacuous sports journalists on BBC Radio Scotland and Sportscene for the past year. This incident was most certainly the culmination of a very dangerous and unwelcome culture of factually inaccurate opinion regarding certain songs sung by the Celtic support. Please do not let it go unchecked.

I look forward to your response to this complaint and I hope that disciplinary action is taken against Rob McLean, Pat Nevin and any members of the production or editorial team who were involved in what can only be described as a national scandal. I would also welcome remedial action from the BBC including, but not limited to, a public retraction of the statements made.

Yours sincerely,

Kieran McGowan

 

Comments  

 
+9 #1 Fife Bhoy 2011-05-26 09:54
Good article and I agree 100% that any complaint needs to go all the way. To BBC Scotland for a response then ask them to reconsider their inadequate response then to BBC London, OFCOM, BBC Trust etc.

Like you what angered me was the obviously contrived reaction from those who have been deaf to the massive outpouring of anti-Irish/RC bile clearly heard from 1000's of Rangers fans which has been studiously ignored.
 
 
+6 #2 eashtacal 2011-05-26 10:04
Rxcellent article. I too was angered by the comments and was disappointed that Pat Nevi, who is an educated man, appeared to tow the party BBC line.
 
 
+7 #3 strathavenhoops 2011-05-26 10:12
The song in question was the bhoys of the old brigade which could clearly be heard being sung In a week where the Queen laid a wreat to honour these men ,i find it ironic that the bbc dont do there homework prior to making such statements
 
 
+12 #4 Fife Bhoy 2011-05-26 10:14
#2 I don’t know anything about Pat Nevin’s education but he strikes me as a faux-intellectual.

The notepad and twiddling of pen doesn’t mean much. I judge a person by their actions and in the case of Nevin he has been consistent in taking the establishment—two sides of the same coin—line, but he never examines the noises coming from the other side even when they are deafening.

He is not alone in this of course and joins the long line of supposedly Celtic minded journalists that know where their bread is buttered and it is not buttered by being objective.
 
 
+6 #5 Eeramacaroonbar 2011-05-26 10:43
I too took the time out to complain online about this. Only takes 5 mins tops.

I agree with Fife Bhoy there as well. I have found over the years that a lot of these ex-Celtic media types have sold their souls. They will happily denounce the "percieved bias" as paranoia, yet I do believe behind closed doors with their families and close friends they would voice a very different account of things.

They are the establishment's first and best line of defence.
 
 
+1 #6 eashtacal 2011-05-26 10:58
Pat Nevin has a degree (From Glasgow Uni, I think) I agree that most pundits sell their souls to whoever is paying their wages though.
 
 
+11 #7 dundalkcelt 2011-05-26 11:24
Good article ,
I find that the likes of nevin ,andy walker and the other "uncle Tims" in the media, attempt to prove their impartiality by being completly negative towards celtic.

These characters are completly motivated by money and have no integrity.
 
 
+13 #8 Sheeran 2011-05-26 13:03
Whilst this is an excellent article and I acknowledge the fact that Celtic fans DO NOT sing sectarian songs, we do leave ourselves open to criticism with some of our songs that reflect sympathy for the IRA; as a confirmed republican from Irish stock, I do believe that Ireland should be united, I feel we are in the time when sympathy for the IRA (not the PIRA, the Real IRA etc.) is being used against us.

Songs like Boys of The Old Brigade (which I always sang with gusto in the Jungle) and the chants of ooh aah up the RA in the Celtic Symphony have their place outwith football grounds, but no longer within the grounds.

As we rightly target the bigoted bile Rangers fans, we cannot leave ourselves open to criticism at all. We have such a repertoire of songs that reflect our Irish heritage and support for our beloved club. Let's concentrate on them and stem any criticism which allows us to fully concentrating bigotry from rangers (and Hearts) fans!

KTF
 
 
+4 #9 Fife Bhoy 2011-05-26 15:17
#8 The songs debate has been covered elsewhere and no doubt will feature on here again that is not the point of this article.

This article deals with the reporting of hearsay as fact.

The hearsay was then pounced on in an apparently rehearsed way by a so called BBC journalist who then introduced the actions and punishment of Rangers supporters for real (not supposed) racist and sectarian singing as some sort of parallel to a sectarian event that didn’t happen.

Orwell in his wildest dreams could not have imagined this sort of doublespeak.

The well articulated complaint by Kieran should not be sidetracked by the songs debate IMHO of course.
 
 
+4 #10 JackFury 2011-05-26 15:35
This "nothing to do with football" argument needs to go

all clubs have songs that have nothing to do with football, and I can safely say "Just Can't Get Enough" was not written with football in mind

I dislike the IRA songs, and considering for all intents and purposed the IRA does not exist anymore we should drop it ever more

I do have a huge problem with the occasional "F**k The Queen" and I do mean very occasional and small, but it is sectarian or at least can easy be argued as such
 
 
0 #11 paddimir 2011-05-26 19:12
I suspect the OFCOM regulation you refer to is design to outlaw subliminal advertising rather than anything like this.
 
 
+5 #12 Little Drummer Bhoy 2011-05-26 20:06
RogueLeader's article 'Together We Stand' last week outlined our need as Celtic supporters to drive the debate about the distinction between sectarian and political songs.

This absolute abomination live on air by the two aforementioned cretins shows exactly the reason why we have to make haste with our argument. We are being grossly misrepresented here, but with the right people and the right media channels we can drive the debate.

I've never made an official complaint in my life, but I actually felt it was my duty as a (somewhat) articulate Tim to send my complaint into the Beeb.

Please do it guys, using Kieran's template or in your own words, as Eeramacaroonbar says, it takes 5 minutes.

We need to make the BBC know we are not going to let this get swept under the carpet.

Hail Hail.
 
 
+3 #13 Theyhaveneverwonit 2011-05-27 00:24
I commented on this under the "Sectarian and offensive Singing" article a few days ago. I made my complaints to the BBC on Monday and asked for a reply. Apparently by Tuesday there were over 800 complaints, I was disappointed that Celtic did not release a statement on their website to defend our fans. Lies such as these broadcast on National TV which are a slur on our Club at this crucial time where the Sectarian agenda has never been higher with Politicians on TV almost every day talking about it. Those watching who will know no better or who want to believe we do sing sectarian songs will have been left in no doubt that this was the case. Mud sticks.
 
 
+6 #14 Auldyin 2011-05-27 00:48
There is a long article posted a few weeks backon CU about the exchange I had with the BBC on the lack of impartilaity on the investigation into and reporting of the referees' strike. It ended up at the Editorial Complaints Unit where we agreed to disagree.

I e mailed the same guy who dealt with my earlier complaint on the Saturday evening not to complain formally but to warn him a poo storm was heading his way.
The guys in London who have to deal with the fallout of the obvious lack of impartiality in BBC Sports Scotland must be looking beyond the complaints by now to identify causes.
I understand Celtic have been in touch directly with the BBC. This could be a Dougiegate moment with a head rolling if Celtic wanted to pursue it.
 
 
0 #15 Kieran1955 2011-06-01 22:52
Got the response below, its a cop out.

I now intend to resubmit without mentioning OFCOM.

I will also be escalating my original complaint as this is unsatisfactory.

If anyone else gets this back, re-submit straight away but delete any references to complaining to other bodies.

"Thank you for your comments regarding 'Sportscene: Scottish Cup Final', transmitted on Saturday, 21 May 2011.

As you’ve advised that you will be making a complaint to Ofcom, it would be most appropriate for the matter to be investigated by them.

Where complainants have taken the opportunity to pursue their complaint via external authorities other than the courts, both the BBC Trust and the BBC Executive may stop the complaints handling procedure.

If the complaint is subsequently resubmitted to the BBC once external investigation has ended, the BBC will not generally reconsider any aspects of complaints that have already been adjudicated upon or considered by an external authority. We must therefore leave the matter in the hands of Ofcom, who will reply to you once they have considered the matter.

Thank you, once again, for taking the time to contact us.

Details of the BBC'S complaints process are available online at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle.shtml.

Kind Regards"

KTF and KEEP THE PRESSURE ON!
 
 
0 #16 watchman 2011-06-03 20:01
Just caught up with this. Methinks one doth protest too much.

Let's not kid ourselves. The Boys of the Old Brigade is a pro IRA song. Whilst it probably won't fall foul of UEFA's rules, and is not anti any other religion or colour or race, in this context, it is clearly "sectarian" and therefore, in my opinion, should have no place in the Celtic repertoire.

As Sheerin points out, the singing of such songs leaves us open to criticism from people like McLean who, at best, feel they are obliged to comment on such content and at worst, well....

As has been pointed out above, this is hugely irritating given the veritable barrage of anti-RC anti-Irish garbage which TDM kept up at the CIS cup final.

I'm not saying that we should be whiter than white. Many of us are from a particular background with resultant prejudices which make us look at certain deeds and events in Irish history in a way that most people not from the same background do not understand. This will never change, and I would not want it to change. However, I get quite protective of the reputation of Celtic fans as a group, particularly when we are lumped together with the unreconstructed bigots and racists who have knuckle dragged their way across Europe.

Whilst we are deeply flawed like all football supporters are, we are much, much better than they are in so many ways and will keep on proving it. The Boys of the Old Brigade and suchlike do us no favours at all.
 
 
0 #17 irish eyes 2011-06-12 12:21
I too received a reply to my complaint and I have now sent another complaint saying that they have failed to get the point. They have to ascertain if the song referred to by the presenter is or is not sectarian. If it is NOT and I believe it is not, then they must apologise to the club and to the fans. As they fans have been wrongly accused.
 
 
0 #18 Fife Bhoy 2011-06-12 13:06
I have received the stock response which does not apologise for reporting hearsay as fact nor does it deal with the specific questions I raised.

Furthermore the reply to my complaint makes further distortions by saying that the reporter said a minority of Celtic fans were reported to be singing sectarian songs.

I have responded, quoting my BBC complaint reference number, asking the complaints investigator to reconsider the response he sent me.

If as I expect there is no apology and reasonable explanation to the specific points I raised I will escalate my complaint all the way to the BBC Trust and involve my MP if necessary.

I ain't feckin having it no more.
 
 
0 #19 RamonTheWolf 2011-06-12 19:00
Amigos, let us not take this lying down. It's about as clear a case of media bias as we're likely to see. Keep up the pressure.

It is disappointing that the club, publicly at least, don't appear to be doing much to pursue the matter.

I'd also agree that BOTOB doesn't do us any favours; but it is not sectarian, and the BBC appear to recognise this in their standard reply. However, in general, they are obfuscatory. Some specific points:

1) The BBC's response is inaccurate: "[A] minority of Celtic fans" is a misrepresentation of what MacLean says. In fact, as can be seen in the the link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdlM4yTpTFo , MacLean makes no attempt to qualify which Celtic fans he's referring to; he says "the Celtic fans have been singing sectarian songs". This part of the BBC's response is a transparent and supremely unconvincing attempt to misrepresent reality. Given the length of time taken by the BBC to respond (18 days), it is difficult to conclude that this error is other than deliberate.

2) The clause "taking into account the statement by Neil Lennon posted on the club's official website" is placed between references to "sectarian singing" and "sectarianism" and thus carries the implication that the statement (acknowledged to be a request that Celtic supporters refrain from certain types of behaviour) by Lennon (and by implication, Celtic FC) refers to sectarianism (with the club therefore effectively accusing its supporters of sectarianism). In fact the club did no such thing.

3) The use of the phrase "the general problem and to specific incidents such as the sending of parcel bombs " in proximity to references to singing is an attempt to create an entirely inappropriate equivalence bewteen these activities. It's also significant that the BBC omit the fact that the intended recipients of said letter bombs were, without exception, associated with Celtic.

4) "One of the guests" presumably refers to Rob MacLean. If MacLean is presenting the show and chairing the discussion, doesn't this make him a BBC employee, rather than a guest? And if so, I'd expect the BBC to take more responsibility for his comments. Calling MacLean a guest reads like an attempt to distance him from the BBC. It's not clear why they would do this, particularly as they later refer to MacLean as "our presenter".

Although the BBC accept that "it would have been more accurate for our presenter to refer to 'songs that some people believe to be an expression of sectarianism but which many people nonetheless find both offensive and provocative'", they avoid specifying which songs to which they are referring (as I asked them to do in my original complaint). It's widely accepted (I'd be interested to hear alternative viewpoints in this regard) that the songs in question were "The Boys Of The Old Brigade" and "The Soldier's Song", songs which, in a spirit akin to that of "Flower of Scotland", celebrate a war of liberation from a colonial oppressor. No doubt such sentiments are offensive and / or provocative in some quarters. However it's both disappointing and misleading that the BBC present this type of offended or provoked feeling as a uniquely civilised norm, failing (as they do) to present alternative discourses, such as those of the Government of the Republic of Ireland and of numerous UK citizens.

While it is undoutbtedly the case both that sectarianism exists in Scotland and that the Celtic family must play a role in overcoming it, the BBC appear motivated by a desire to create false equivalences between Celtic and Rangers, and between singing and potentially murderous activities. In acting in such a manner, they have alienated significant
numbers of anti-sectarian Celtic supporters. Equally, refusing to specify which songs they regard as sectarian, the BBC appear to want to pose as guardians of tolerance while unwilling to engage in serious debate.

Don't let them get away with it.
 
 
0 #20 Fife Bhoy 2011-07-04 09:13
Latest from Ofcom:-
Sportscene: Scottish Cup Final, BBC1 Scotland, 20th May 2011

Thank you for contacting Ofcom.

We understand that you were concerned by the remarks of some of the commentators during a discussion at halftime.

Whilst the Ofcom Broadcasting Code does contain rules relating to accuracy and impartiality, under the terms of the Communications Act the BBC is not licensed by Ofcom in the same way as the commercial broadcasters, and to reflect this situation a Memorandum of Understanding exists between Ofcom and the BBC Trust whereby the Trust regulates these areas, not Ofcom.

After viewing the relevant material and carefully considering your complaint, Ofcom has concluded that any offence from this remark arose from a perceived inaccuracy. As such, it takes the view that this matter should be addressed by the BBC directly. The BBC’s details are below should you wish to contact them.

BBC Complaints
PO Box 1922
Darlington
DL3 0UR
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

Tel: 03700 100 222

Yours sincerely

Ofcom Standards Team

:: Ofcom
Riverside House
2a Southwark Bridge Road
London
SE1 9HA
020 7981 3000
http://www.ofcom.org.uk
 

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